Diese Liste ist sicher nicht vollständig! Aber irgendwann muß man ja mal anfangen...
Das folgende ist auch schon ohne Text aussagekräftig.
Der Patient auf dem OP-Tisch:
Roter Kreis: Ölrücklauf
Alte Kolben haben so ein "Spannband" innen:
"Ed Korn's Universalwerkzeug" im Einsatz:
Hier die anderen Teile dieses Werkzeugs:
Die Ölpumpe - das ist alles, was ein Wälzlagermotor braucht, denn man hat sich ansonsten die Fliehkraft zunutze gemacht:
Blick auf das vordere Ölschleuderblech:
Durch diese Öffnung im vorderen Ölschleuderblech wird das Schleuderöl in den Pleuellagerbolzen der Kurbelwelle geleitet - Schmierung allein durch Fliehkraft. (Genauso sieht es an der anderen, hinteren KW-Seite aus für das andere, rechte Pleuellager.)
So sollte es nicht aussehen:
Im Pleuellagerbolzen hat es 2 Bohrungen, durch die das Schleuderöl auf die unteren Pleuellager (Wälzlager) gelangt. Wenn diese durch Schmutz verstopft werden, der die Rillen der Ölschleuderbleche zum Überlaufen bringt ...
Hier hat jemand tiefgreifend umgerüstet:
hinten das Doppelpendellager:
this SKF toroidal bearing represents the most exciting recent development in bearing technolgy - an engineers dream! SKF has a patent on this and I was lucky - they make a size that fits... sort of. This bearing eliminates all axial creeping of the 2 journal seats. The continuous expansion and contraction of the housing versus the crank is one reason for wear in the journal seats when ball bearings are used. The only axial pressures remaining are from the helical cam gears (minimal) and the clutch actuator. Both are taken up by the very capable spherical double row roller bearing at front. I have left out the third bearing near the generator as it's weight has dissapeared (see 'Electrics) and as it would disturb the now perfectly determined system.
SKF toroidal bearing is 7 mm longer than the OEM one. This required the flywheel cone to be shortened (while is was on the lathe I asked the machinist to lighten it - see the markings). Because the toroidal bearing can have its races offset axially, there is no need for the spacer between the inner race and the slinger. This saved a bit in length and allowed the flywheel cone machined back by only 4mm. The Viton seal at the back of the crank case just fitted flush with the bearing carrier. Lucky. Punch marks on the crank idicate that crank has been apart. The alignment however wasn't perfect.
Date: Fri Mar 24 07:41:07 1995 From: heiden@tca.fgg.eur.nl (kees van der heiden) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rotterdam, 21-10-1994 This is my attempt for a /2 FAQ. Because I'm in the middle of the res- toration of a '58 R69, I'm very interested in these bikes, and still have vivid memories about all the problem area's. So I collected any usefull information that I could get, asked around for more info, and put it all together. This is the result. Don't look too hard at all the grammatical errors, English is not my native tongue. But when you find any error, lie or misconception in the contents don't hesitate to flame ahead. My email adress: vanderheiden@tca.fgg.eur.nl ____________________________________________________________________________ Contents: - Some History - Technical data - More technical data - Problem areas - Special tools - Sidecars - Magnetos The /2 range of BMW's motorcycles is usually regarded to be the swingarm models, build from 1955 - 1960. In fact this term '/2' isn't quite correct, because only the modelnames of the R50 and R60 from '60 -'69 had this extension. But, what's in a name? Some history: After the second world war, The German motorcycle manufacturers weren't allowed to build engines with more than 250cc displacement. The BMW plant was heavily bombed, so they were rather late with their first postwar bike, the R24. Not the famous boxer engine, but a very modest single. Nonetheless it was a huge succes, and allowed BMW to make enough profit for their first postwar boxer, after the restrictions were relaxed. This bike the R51/2 made from 1950 - 1951 was nearly the same as the prewar R51. The bike had a twin tube frame with plunger rear suspension and a telescopic frontfork. It had an engine with two camshafts, driven by a chain, wich allowed short pushrods. In 1951 the new boxers were introduced, the R51/3 and the R67, and the R68, the first BMW 100 mph runner, followed in 1952. These had a new engine in virtually the same old frame. This engine is of interest to us, because it is the same as used in the '/2' series until 1969, with detail modifications of course. This engine featured one camshaft, driven by helical cut gears. A magneto on front of the camshaft, a DC dynamo on front of the crankshaft and the oilpump on an extra gear under the crank- shaft. All shafts had very big ball bearings. The big ends ran on needle bearings, and the small end had to do with a bronse bush. This layout was retained until 1969, with the excepton of the rear crankshaft bearing on the bigger, more powerfull machines, which had a swival joint bearing to cope with crankshaft flexing. The cylinder was cast iron. The piston and cylinder head were made from light metal. At the back of the engine a large flywheel was attached to the crankshaft, wich incorporated the car type single plate dry clutch. In 1955 was the introduction of the R50 and the R69. They had the new frame but the old engines. The new frame was a sensation in these days. It was very comfortable and had good road holding properties. At the back was a swing arm, at last universally regarded as the optimum configuration for the rear end of a bike. The mainframe still had the same style as the old plunger frame, with neat loops next to the rear wheel and rather strange extensions to hold the rear suspension units. The front was very exotic. Here was a swing arm , according to the Earless patent. This was a very hot item, mainly used on racers, and on some fancy street bikes. But these latter weren't always a succes, because of their flimsy layout. BMW did it better. They made a very strong fork from conical tube and used conical roller bearings to carry the swing arm. They used the same bearings in the rear swingarm. Also the gearbox was changed in 1955. The previous models had a two-shaft gearbox, but these newer boxes had tree shafts. The consequence was a change of turning direction in the cardan. This was dealed with by changing the position of the pignon wheel in the rearwheel. The introduction of the sportsmodels R50S and R69S, started some big difficulties. The engines had a lot of reliability problems, like broken crankshafts, cylinderhead failures and even teared off cylinders. The crankshaft was too flexible for these kind of power outputs. The R50S was discontinued in 1962 after only 1634 units produced. The R69S got a vibration damper on the crankshaft in front of the dynamo. These engines are recognized by the extra bump on the front cover. The R69S also got a hydraulic steering damper to cope with the high speed instability. At the very end, since 1967, the US models were available with a tele- scopic frontfork, as develloped for the /5 BMW's. This model was only available in the USA, and German customers were rather sauer about this. They had to wait until the introduction of the /5 range. The development of the single cylinder models was a bit different. After the R24 without rear suspension, came the R25 with a plunger frame, like the R51/3, but smaller and cheaper manufactured. Although the R25 and its succesors the R25/2 and /3 sold in huge quantities, the factory didn't spend as much development effort in these bikes as in the boxers. There were some thermical problems that were dealt with in the cheapest way, by painting the cylinderhead black. Later the heads had much larger cooling fins, and thus the engine was used in the R26. The engine was quite different from the boxer engines. It also had a longitudinal crankshaft, but the camshaft was driven by a chain. It also hadn't a magneto, but it had to do with coil ignition. The frame of the R26 and R27 strongly resembles the frame of the R50 etc. In fact it has completely the same Earless frontfork, of course with different shoch absorbers and springs. The differences are at the backside. The reinforcement bars near the swingarm bearings are different, and the suspension units are more slanted. The 'cardan' of the single cylinder models also hasn't a cardan coupling, instead it still has the Hardy coupling. This is a disk of woven fabric, which allows some up and down movement. The R27 has the very special rubber engine mountings. BMW had investigated this subject intensily. Because the R26 had quite a lot of power, the vibrations were very strong. This was not only very uncomfortable, but it also inflicted the reliability. These rubber mountings lessened the degree of vibration to a very acceptable amount, although the power output was raised from 15 to 18 hp. Technical details: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model R50 (/2) | R50S | R60 (/2) | R69 | R69/S | R26 | R27 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Period '55-'60('69)| '60-'62 | '56-'60('69)| '55-'60 | '60-'69 | '56-'60 | '60-'66 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cylinders 2 in boxer layout | 1 vertical ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bore and stroke 68x68 mm | 72x73 mm | 68x68 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Displacement 494 cc | 594 cc | 247 cc ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Valves 2 / cylinder ohv ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Compresion 6.8:1 | 9.2:1 | 6.5:1 (7.5) | 7.5:1 | 9.5:1 | 7.5:1 | 8.2:1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Horsepower 26 | 35 | 28 (30) | 35 | 42 | 15 | 18 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- At rpm 5800 | 7650 | 5600 (5800) | 6800 | 7000 | 6400 | 7400 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carburettor Bing 24mm | 26mm | 24mm | 26mm | 26mm | 26mm | 26mm ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Electrics Norris magneto and Bosch DC generator 60-90W 6V | Norris coil ignition ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Clutch Single dry plate ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gearbox 4 speed, foot operated ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frame Twin tube ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Suspension Swing arm front and rear. Boge shock absorbers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tires 3.50 x 18 | 3.25x18 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brakes Fullwidth 200mm drumbrakes. Duplex front | Fullw. 160mm drum ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Length 2125 mm | 2090 mm ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Width 660 mm | 660 mm ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Height 725 mm | 770 mm ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tank 17 l | 15 l ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Weight 195 kg | 198 kg | 195(198) kg | 202 kg | 202 kg | 158 kg | 162 kg ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Topspeed km/h 140 | 160 | 145 (150) | 165 | 175 | 128 | 130 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Production 13510(19036)| 1634 | 3530(17306) | 2956 | 11317 | 30236 | 15364 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newprice DM 3050,- | 3535,- | 3235(3315),-| 3950,- | 4030,- | 2150,- | 2430,- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More R50/R50S/R60/R69S TECHNICAL DATA Motorcycle Model R50 R50S R60(/2) R69S R69 Engine Type of Engine four-cycle, with V-type overhead valves Nominal rated hp (DIN) 26 35 28(30) 42 35 at engine r.p.m. 5,800 7,650 5,600 7,000 6800 No. of cylinders 2 2 2 2 2 Cylinder arrangement horizontally opposed Bore (mm.) 68 68 72 72 72 Stroke (mm.) 68 68 73 73 73 Piston displacement (c.c.) 490 490 590 590 590 Compression ratio 6.8:1 9.2:1 6.5:1 9.5:1 7.5:1 Valve timing, with valve clearance of .08" (2mm), (tolerance +-2.5 deg) Intake opens 6 deg. 4 deg. 6 deg. 4 deg. 3.5 deg after after after after before T.D.C. T.D.C. T.D.C. T.D.C. T.D.C. Intake closes 34 deg. 44 deg. 34 deg. 44 deg. 43.5 deg after after after after after B.D.C. B.D.C. B.D.C. B.D.C. B.D.C Exhaust opens 34 deg. 44 deg. 34 deg. 44 deg. 43.5 deg before before before before before B.D.C. B.D.C. B.D.C. B.D.C. B.D.C. Exhaust closes 6 deg. 4 deg. 6 deg. 4 deg. 3.5 deg before before before before after T.D.C. T.D.C. T.D.C. T.D.C. T.D.C Valve clearance (as measured when engine is cold): Intake .006" .006" .006" .006" .006-.008" (.15mm) (.15mm) (.15mm) (.15mm) (.15-.20mm) Exhaust .008" .008" .008" .008" .008-.009" (.20mm) (.20mm) (.20mm) (.20mm) (.20-.25mm) Lubrication system combined force-feed/centrifugal lubrication, operated by geared pump; oil sump. Carburetors R50 R50S R60(/2) R69S R69 Type two inclined BING carburetors with sliding throttle and needle valve BING model left 1/24/45 1/26/71 1/24/95(125) 1/26/69 1/26/10 right 1/24/46 1/26/72 1/24/96(126) 1/26/70 1/26/9 Carburetor passage .94" (24mm) 1.02" (26mm) .94" (24mm) 1.02" (26mm) 1.02" (26mm) Main jet 105 135 105(110) 135 115 Needle jet 45-251/ 1308 1208 1208(1308) 2108 1208 Jet needle 46-255 46-934, No. 4 1467(46-255) 46-934, No. 4 No. 4 Needle position 3 2 3 2 1 Idling jet 35 35 35 35 35 Idling mixture adjusting screw proper position: open 1 to 2 1/2 turns Sliding throttle 22-470 22-531 22-470 22-531 - Weight of float 1/4 oz (7g) 1/4 oz (7g) 1/4 oz (7g) 1/4 oz (7g) 1/4 oz (7g) Intake air filter common micronic dry filter; with choke for R50, R60 and R69 without choke for R50S and R69S. Electrical equipment Ignition BOSCH MZ ad/R magneto Drive direct from camshaft, at half engine speed Contact breaker gap .016" (.4mm) Ignition timing automatic centrifugal advance and retard unit on camshaft (+ manual advance on R69) Firing point 9 deg. before T.D.C. (2 deg on R69) (with governor weights in stationary position) (with manual on retard on R69) Timing range 30 deg. of crankshaft (30+10 deg. on R69) Max. advance 39+-2 deg. before T.D.C. (42 before T.D.C. on R69) Spark plugs R50,R60 and R69 BOSCH W240 T1, or BERU 240/14 R50S and R69S for running-in period: BOSCH W240 T1, or BERU 240/14; afterwards: BOSCH W260 T1, or BERU 260/14 Electrode gap .024" (.6mm) Generator (dynamo) BOSCH LJ/CGE 60/6/1700 R 5, with integral voltage regulator Drive direct from camshaft Horn BOSCH HO/FDG 6/1, or KLAXON ETF/4 D Lighting System Headlights BOSCH LE/MTA 160x2 (48/3) Bulb data Country and traffic beam Bilux lamp (twin-filament), 6 V, 35/35 watts Parking light pilot lamp, 6V 2 watts Neutral indicator pilot lamp, 6V 2 watts Charging indicator pilot lamp, 6V 2 watts Speedometer illumination pilot lamp, 6V 2 watts Taillight and stoplight twin-filament lamp, 6V 5/18 watts License plate illumination round bulb lamp, 6V, 5 watts Blinker unit HELLA BI 81 Blinker bulb tubular lamp, 6V, 18 watts Jack (socket), one pole under saddle; for sidecar lighting or flashlight Drive Clutch single-plate dry clutch with diaphragm spring Transmission four-speed, with sliding dog clutches, integral with engine, torque-dampened in all gears Gear shift positive-stop, sequential, foot-operated Gear ratios R50 and R60 with sidecar 1st 4.171:1 5.33:1 2nd 2.725:1 5.02:1 3rd 1.938:1 2.04:1 4th 1.54:1 1.54:1 Power transmission from fully enclosed universal shaft in right-hand rear gearbox to rear wheel swinging arm; axle drive by spiral bevel gears Bevel gear ratios R50, R60 R50S R69S R69 Solo 3.13:1 3.58:1 3.13:1 3.18:1 No. of teeth 8/25 7/25 8/25 11/35 Sidecar 4.33:1 (4.33:1 (4.33:1 4.33:1 No.of teeth 6/26 6/26) 6/26) 6/25) Frame, Suspension, Wheels Frame welded duplex-tube steel frame Suspension pivoted swinging arms with hydraulically dampened suspension units and dual action hydraulic shock absorbers Brakes light-alloy full-hub brakes with integral gray-cast iron rings brake drum diam. 7.8" (200mm); width 1.4" (35mm) effective brake lining area 28.2 sq. in. (182 cm3) front: duplex brake (2 leading shoes) rear: simplex brake Rims Solo chromed steel drop-center rims, 2.15Bx18 (40 spokes) or painted steel, or high shoulder aluminium rims. Sidecar all wheels : chromed steel drop-center rims; front 2.15Bx18, rear 2.75Cx18 Tires R50 R50S R60 R69S R69 Solo 3.50x18 3.50x18S 3.50x18 3.50x18S 3.50x18S Rear, with sidecar 4.00x18 (4.00x18) 4.00x18 (4.00x18) (4.00x18) Max. unbalance .32 oz (9 g), as measured at inner rim diameter Tire Pressures Front Wheel Rear Wheel Sidecar Wheel Driver alone 24 psi 28 psi - 1.7 kg/cm3 2.0 kg/cm3 Driver and passenger 24 psi 33 psi - 1.7 kg/cm3 2.3 kg/cm3 Driver with occupied sidecar 24 psi 27 psi 27 psi 1.7 kg/cm3 1.9 kg/cm3* 1.9 kg/cm3 Driver and passenger 24 psi 38 psi 27 psi plus occupied sidecar 1.7 kg/cm3 2.7 kg/cm3* 1.9 kg/cm3 * with 4.00x18 tire. Dimensions (without load) Overall width ** 26" (660 mm) R69S: 28.4" (722 mm) engine width Width of solo handlebar ** 26" (660 mm) Width of sidecar handlebar ** 29.3" (745mm) Overall width of motorcycle with attached sidecar ** 64" (1,625 mm) Overall height 38.6" (980 mm) Saddle height 28.5" (725 mm) Overall length 83.6" (2,125 mm) Overall length of motorcycle with attached sidecar 94.4" (2,400 mm) Wheelbase, solo 55.7" (1,415 mm) Wheelbase with sidecar attached 57" (1,450 mm) Track width, motorcycle with attached sidecar 43.3" (1,100 mm) Ground clearance 5.3" (135 mm) ** without blinkers Weights R50 R50S R60 R69S R69 Curb weight * 436 lbs 436 lbs 436 lbs 445 lbs 445 lbs (198 kgs) (198 kgs) (198 kgs) (202 kgs) (202 kg) with sidecar 705 lbs (705 lbs) 705 lbs (714 lbs) 714 lbs (320 kgs) (320 kgs) (320 kgs) (324 kgs) (324 kgs) Permissible total** 794 lbs 794 lbs 794 lbs 794 lbs 794 lbs (360 kgs) (360 kgs) (360 kgs) (360 kgs) (360 kgs) with sidecar 1,323 lbs (1,323 lbs) 1,323 lbs (1,323 lbs) 1323 lbs permissible axle loads Front 331 lbs 331 lbs 331 lbs 331 lbs (150 kgs) (150 kgs) (150 kgs) (150 kgs) Rear, solo 496 lbs 496 lbs 496 lbs 496 lbs (225 kgs) (225 kgs) (225 kgs) (225 kgs) Rear, w. sidecar*** 705 lbs (705 lbs) 705 lbs (705 lbs) (320 kgs) (320 kgs) (320 kgs) (320 kgs) sidecar wheel 353 lbs (353 lbs) 353 lbs (353 lbs) (160 kgs) (160 kgs) (160 kgs) (160 kgs) Maximum occupancy (including driver): solo, 2 persons; with sidecar, 3 persons. * Curbe weight = weight of the motorcycle with fuel, lubricants and tool kit. ** Permissible total weight = curb weight + passengers + baggage. *** with 4.00x18 tire. Speeds The speeds given below are maximum speeds of already run-in motorcycles. The speed is largely dependent on the air resistance caused by the rider's size, position, clothing etc. R50 R50S R60 R69S solo, normal 81 mph 90 mph 84 mph 100mph sitting position (130 km/h) (145 km/h) (135 km/h) (160 km/h) Solo, crouched 87 mph 100 mph 90 mph 109 mph position (140 km/h) (160 km/h (145 km/h) (175 km/h) Sidecar attached 62 mph - 69 mph - (100 km/h) (110 km/h) Acceleration R50 R50S R60* R69S zero to 50 km/h 3.2 sec 3.2 sec 4.5 sec 2.6 sec (31 mph) zero to 60 km/h 4.1 sec 4.1 sec 6.0 sec 3.3 sec (37 mph) zero to 80 km/h 6.8 sc 6.1 sec 10.3 sec 5.3 sec (50 mph) zero to 100 km/h 10.3 sec 9.2 sec 16.5 sec 7.5 sec (62 mph) zero to 120 km/h 14.3 sec 12.9 sec - 11.1 sec (75 mph) zero to 140 km/h - 19.5 sec - 16.0 sec (87 mph) 1,000 m (.62 miles) 33.6 sec 31.0 sec 39.9 sec 30.1 sec with standing start * with sidecar and 132 lbs (60 kgs) of ballast. Fuels and lubricants R50, R60, R69 R50S and R69S Fuel regular super Fuel tank capacity 4.5 US gals. (3.75 Imp gals; 17 liters) including a reserve of approx. 1/2 gal (2 liters), for about 20 miles (30 km). Lubricants only use high-grade greases and oils recommended by your BMW dealer Engine For winter and transition periods: Brand name multigrade HD oil for gasoline engines, SAE 10 W 30. For the summer months: Brand name single-grade HD oil for gasoline engines, SAE 30. For sustained sporty driving and at very high temperatures SAE 40. Caution! to replace a multigrade oil with a single-grade type or vice versa, it is absolutely necessary to completely drain the actual oil as these two types are not always compatible one with another. Quantity: .52 US gal ( .44 Imp gal; 2 liters) Transmission SAE 10W 30 HD oil for gasoline engines, summer and winter; quantity: .21 US gal (.18 Imp gal, .8 liters) Drive shaft housing SAE 40 engine oil, summer and winter, 9 cu. in. (150 cc) Bevel drive SAE 40 engine oil, summer and winter, 9 cu. in. (150 cc) Consumption Fuel consumption depends on the mode of driving and the driving speeds (computed according to German Standards, DIN 70030): R50 R60 R50S R69S solo sidecar solo sidecar miles per US gal 46 46 47 36 45 44 miles per Imp gal 55 48 56 43 54 53 at a speed of (mph) 61 47 63 51 68 69 Oil consumption approx. 1 to 1 1/2 quarts per 1,000 miles Frame and engine numbers ('should' be the same). R26 340001-370236 R27 372001-387566 R50 550001-563515 R50/2 630001-649037 R50S 564005-565639 R60 618001-621530 R60/2 622001-629999 1810001-1819307 R69 652001-654955 R69S 655004-666320 Question: - What can I expect when I buy a /2 BMW? What do things like top end rebuilds cost? You can expect a lot of trouble, unless you buy a fully restored bike with bills, a journal and detailed photo's of the restauration. These bikes were very cheap in the seventies. A lot of guys used them intensily, without too much maintanance. The bikes were transformed to dirtbikes and choppers. And they who didn't use the hacksaw to improve their BMW, usually tried to cut the running costs, by installing parts from later models, which fit in a lot of cases. Aftermarket silencers, tail and front lamps, seats etc. are also common. Really cared for bikes, which you can run as "authentic and original" are rare. And it is difficult to find the right looking second hand parts to restore a hacksawed bike to this type of used but nice finish. It is not so difficult to restore to a glossy, as new, type of bike. Virtually all parts are still available or being remanufactured. At the veteran scene in Europe, the /2 is a very common sight. So there is a large industry around them. But be aware, not all remanufactured parts are of the same quality as the originals, and quite a few parts are manufactured in batches. When you miss the batch, you must wait until the next one starts. At the moment (10-'94) wheelrims are unobtainable, because Akront in Spain had fire damage this summer. This is just an example, but characteristic for the situation. Nonetheless, the parts supply is very healthy A lot of people are afraid for the mechanical state of their purchase. But the costs to repair the mechanical damage are usually less than the visual aspects. New or good second hand fenders, lamps and tanks are very costly. Paint spraying is expensive, just as all those little bits and pieces, like rubbers, emblems, nuts and bolts, etc. Here are some areas to watch out for: - Get a workshop manual. Clymer or Haynes. The original BMW workshop manual is not very detailed. A good German book is: "1000 tricks fuer schnelle BMW's" by H.J. Mai. ISBN: 3-613-01117-4 Also very usefull is a parts list. It contains exploded diagrams of all the parts of your bike. Very usefull for reassembly-time. - All the bearings in the cycle department. Especially headstock bearings are mostly scrap. You can update to tappered bearings. My bike also had very bad swingarm and wheel bearings. - Watch out for signs of accidents in the past. Check the wheel allignment. Also common in the past was to remove the saddle mounting bracket, when another saddle was installed. The bracket should have two groups of 6 holes, and the saddle uses the 6 rear holes. - Shockabsorbers from Boge aren't the most reliable items. You can swap them for Koni dampers. - The aluminium wheel rims are mostly heavily scratched and pitted. Polishing them is a horrible task. New rims are available. - Other aluminium items, like the rear swingarm nut and the suspension parts, can be polished. Restoring to the 'right' original dull finish is more difficult. - There is not so much chrome, so the chrome bill will stay reasonable. New items are available, but usually not of the highest quality. - Check the fenders for corossion damage. Especially the rear one is prone to rust. There is a wiring loom tunnel in there, which acts as a most perfect moisture trap. Watch out for bogged repairs with polyester. New fenders are horribly expensive. - The headlamp shell is mostly rather dented and not round anymore. It needs a good craftsman to recreate the right shape. - Tank can be rusty inside, when stored empty. Special sealing kits are available. - The petrol tap will be leaking. Unless there is a later type fitted. The original tap has a cork lining which isn't for sale, and is difficult to make on your own. When you keep the tap always wet with petrol, it is possible to keep it reliable. - Lots of bikes miss the original dim and horn switches. They are being re- made, but idotely expensive. The correct type has a sliding dimmer switch instead of a toggling switch. - The battery tray will be affected by rust, but it is made from thick steel. More serious is it when acid has attacked the lower frame cross tube. There could be an extra "unoriginal" hole. - All rubers probably will be perished, but are readily available. - Saddle's are being remade. Also parts are available. But it is very difficult to exchange the rubber saddle top whitout machinery. Maybe it is wiser to order a complete upperpart. - Dual seats and the miscelaneous parts are also still available, and are available on fleamarkets, as most people nowadays prefere a saddle. - I hope your speedometer is still functioning. They can be repaired in a VDO workshop. When you shop around on the fleamarket for a replacement, you must look for a speedo that fits the cardan ratio. - The engine is a reliable unit. But you will need an overhaul sometime: - New valves and valve guides. The 8mm valves of the R69 and R69S are very strong, but I would advise you to exchange the 7mm valves always. - Pistons in all sizes are readily available. Only the R69 and the R50S are a problem. - Small end bushes are not too strong. Big end roller bearings are strong, but they depend on clean oil. That can be a problem, because the thrower plates on the crankshaft, that clean the oil by centrifugal force, are full with sludge after +/- 50k miles. To clean them, you have to dissasemble the whole engine, so it can be neglected in the past. - I haven't dismantled a gearbox yet, but it is a relaible unit. Even when maltreated it can stand up for a long time. When you have to adjust the gear selection mechanism, you must bend the forks until correct. This is an akward business. - The clutch is prone to the normal tear and wear. When you exchange the clutchplates, check the height of the diafragma spring. Look also to the splines in the cluth plate and on the gearbox input shaft. They need their spline lubrication job now and then. - The electrical department is not very complex. You need a new wiring loom when the wires are brittle. Not too expensive. - Check the dynamo stator. Its rings should be clean and sparkling. When not you can turn them down, and cut back the isolation. - Check if the magneto has a healthy spark. If not, maybe the rotating magnet isn't positioned correctly. Look it up in the workshop manual how it should be done and set it very precisely. When this doesn't help most probably the windings are shunting. The magneto has a hard life in a hot environment, and the old shellack insulation can be weakened after such a long time. When the bike has problems with restarting when hot, it could be a bad condenser, but more probably it is such a bad magneto winding. - Putting the rear fender back in place is quite a job. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Question: Were can I find parts? Answer: All BMW dealers should be able to supply you with at least the consumables. But it is better to check out the specialists. Here are some on both sides of the Atlantic. Adress list of German spare part suppliers. Specially pre 1970 stuff. These shops have a mail order service. Uli's Motorradladen Ulrich Seiwert Gutleutstrasse 144 60327 Frankfurt tel: 069/239319 fax: 069/233840 Theofried Jeckel Schutzenhausstrasse 11a 65510 Idstein tel: 06126/70864 S. Meyer Bahnhofstrasse 22 67586 Hillesheim/Rheinhessen tel: 06733/8195 or 7281 fax: 06733/8134 Only R24 - R27 stuff Martin Kornhas Nordliche Uferstrasse 14 76189 Karlsruhe-Rheinhafen tel: 0721/592025 fax: 0721/592026 Rudi Vorholt (no adress known) 66839 Schmelz/Saarland tel: 06887/6954 fax: 06887/1254 Motorrad Stemler Garschager Heide 39 5630 Remscheid 11 tel: 02191/53067 fax: 02192/590349 E. Breindl Grope Querumer Strasse 26a 38104 Braunschweig tel: 0531/375737 fax: 0531/377763 for books, manuals and parts lists: WK Verlag Lagesche Strasse 105 D-32108 Bad Salzsuflen tel: 05222 - 92750 fax: 05222 - 927550 This list is not tested, not complete, nor for ever up to date. But it is sampled from the German motorpress, and therefore rather reliable. Most of these supliers have a spare part and price list, to be obtained by sending +/- DM 10,- to them. When you get a spare parts list, it is astonishing what is available. You can assemble a complete /2, when you have the money. The Huge spare part heap of Pfaffen Ag. is recently ('93) sold to Motorrad Stemler and Rudi Vorhold. A good mail order service is available in the Netherlands. I do most of my business with them. De Hobbyist Kraakstraat 5 6013 RR Hunsel Netherlands tel: 04756 - 6888 fax: 04756 - 6900 Wheelbuilding, rims and spokes, cheap and good: De Haan Wheels Ambachtstraat 25 5481 SM Schijndel tel: 04104 - 76196 And a very good workshop for crankshaft rebuilds and all other engine work: Stolk Dotterbloemstraat 30 Rotterdam tel: 010 - 4185090 Some specialists in the US. List is from Phil Rose: BLUE MOON CYCLE (404) 447-6945 20 Skin Alley Norcross, GA 30071 USA BOBS BMW (301) 924-5155 10630-Y Riggs Hill Rd. FAX (301) 776-2338 Jessup, MD 20794 USA SPEEDS CYCLE Elkridge, MD (410) 379-0106 BMW MOTORADD of St.Louis (800) 999-1269 4011 Forest Park FAX (314) 531-8837 St. Louis, MO 63108 USA BING AGENCY INT. (800) 448-4819 "MOVING SOON" 824 South Broad FAX (402) 721-0263 Freemont, NE 68025 BLEY USA INC. (708) 437-0671 Crankshaft Rebuilds No address yet Expensive but excellent ! Some accessory sources: Bob' used Parts Maryland, US Replica Enduro tear drop bags. tel: 301 9245155 Theofried Jeckel Heinrich products, Meier tanks. Frankfurt, Germany tel: 06126 70864 Ian MacKintosh Replica Peel fairing California, US tel: 714 4964964 Craven Equipment Original sixties rigid saddle bags Cinderford, UK tel: 01594 825010 Question: When I want to overhaul the engine, gearbox etc, do I need a lot of special tools? Answer: It all depends on your workshop. It will be very helpfull if you have a lath. You can make the nicest tools with a lath and a standing drill. But you can also improvise lots of tools with rough lumps of steel and welding equipment. Most gears and bearings have a tight pressfit, so you need very sturdy tools. You should buy an exhaustnut wrench. There are two types, for the finned exhaust nuts of the R69, R50S and R69S. And the nut to remove the flat nuts, with little holes in the side on the R50 and R60. Both are not extremely expensive, but invaluable. Another thing is a heating device. A blowtorch is too hot. It will melt the aluminium castings. I always use a large electrical cooking plate. Some tools for engine (dis)assembly: All sizes in milimeter - To release the clutch spring pressure, you need two or better three M8x1 fine threaded screws with nuts and some 40mm long. The cardan housing is fastened to the rearwheel casting with studs that have M8x1 and normal M8 thread. When you use these, you can srew the fine thread in the clutch and use the course thread to release the spring. - Clutch center tool: ( 30 )(4.5) -----------+________ ^ + ^ + ---\ 8mm + ---/ 20.4 23 + ___________+--------+ v v - To pull the dynamo and the magnet from the crankshaft and the camshaft, use a strong steel stift of 60x6mm. This should be strong, because, when it bends, you have a big problem. Put the stift in the appropriate opening and push with an M8 bolt. - Universal puller plate 200x80x8 with one hole the middle of 8.5 mm and two slots of 8.5x45 on both sides of the hole with 15mm in between: --------- * --------- To be used together with M6 and M8 studs to pull of the large timing gear housing on front of the engine. And together with a steel bush of 48 outer diameter and 35.5 inner and some 100 long (you should take some messurements to see how precise this is, but you should get both ends true parallel), and a M8 stud to press the front crankshaft bearing and the crankshaft gearwheel. - The flywheel puller +---..--------....--------..---+ + | | | M16| | | + + | | --| |-- | | + + | | | | | | + +---..-----..........-----..---+ hole ( 28mm ) hole 11 mm |( 66mm )| |( 88mm )| You need an M16 bolt to press and two M10x1 fine threaded bolts to attach the puller to the flywheel, which accomodates two threaded holes for this purpose. Also you must put a strong steel disk of 27 mm outer diameter between the M16 bolt and the crankshaft to protect the threads overhere. The front suspension units are fastened with M10x1 x48 bolts. A simplified version could consist of a piece of U profile, with a 18mm hole, and a M16 nut welded over this hole. When this nut is fixed, measure the place of the 11mm holes and drill them. - The R69 and the R69S have a special rear crankshaft bearing. This bearing can cope with the flexing of the crankshaft, but during assembly it needs to be fixed in place. You really need a lath for this tool. Dimensions: |( 31 ) |( 24 ) |( 18 ) The dimple is 1.5 deep | +--------------|.......---___-+ ^ + | | + ^ 30 +---+ | | +---+ 24 ^19 + | +---| + v v v +----------|...+------+ | ( 19 ) ( 71.5 ) ( 50 ) To be fitted with the large flywheel bolt. - To fit the crankshaft in the rear bearing house you should use enough heat to let it slide in. But sometimes you have to use some extra force. Don't smash with a hammer on the front of the crankshaft, but you can use this trick: get an old flywheelnut (M18x1.5) and drill a hole in the middle with M8 thread. Together with a stud and the universal plate and some lumber, you can pull the crankshaft in to place. - You can remove the camshaft with the universal plate, two 70mm wooden bars and a M8 thread. Put the lumbers under the plate and pull the complete camshaft together with gearwheel and all the front bearings out. (The R69 is the only one with two frontbearings). The rear bearing can be pulled out with some hooks, and a rope, when the whole engine casting is being heated, to remove the crankshaft. For (dis)assembly of the camshaft wheels and bearings, you can also use the universal plate. - Pulling the crankshaft gearwheel is done with a normal two arm puller. Maybe you must ground it down on some places to make it fit. Use a clamp to press the two arms together. Protect the crankshaft with a bolt. And don't forget to remove the seegerring on the pre '63 engines... - Mandril to remove the wheel bearings from the brake side: ( 20 ) +------+ | | ^ 15 | | v -+ +- | | |( 25 )| v v - Key to remove the special big wheel nuts. +----------------------------- | ( 44 ) | | o O o | | steel plate 8mm thick +---------------------------------- Make one 10 mm hole in the middle and place two 5 mm pins on 44 mm. Drill out the holes in your wheel nut until 5 mm. For the pins, I used M6 bolts, turned down to 5 mm. With the remaining thread, you can attach them to the steel plate. The joke is, to put the steel plate with the pins on your wheel. Put an M10 stud though the 10mm hole and the wheel, and fix everything with some nuts and rings together. Now you can put a lot of force on this tool, without the risk of damaged keyholes. - A setup to disassemble the front suspension units is easy to make. The goal is to reach the shock absorber arm with a 9 mm spanner. Make from plywood two plates one with a dimple to hold the underside of the unit in place, the other with a 58 mm hole to go over the upper aluminium part and on to the black cover. Now make some extra holes in the plywood for two long M6 studs alongside the suspension unit. You can press the unit together now, but most probably the upper aluminium part will be oxidized together with the black cover. So you must put a steel rod through the upper alu part, and attach it to the studs with some nuts, steel plates and wire. Now you can screw down the plywood with two nuts on the studs. Question: I want a sidecarhack, and someone told me to get a /2 frame and put a new BMW boxer engine in it. What is involved in this? Answer: The /2 series bikes were factory aproved sidecar machines, as opposed to all the post '69 BMW's. The frame is very sturdy and has standard attachement points for a sidecar. You only need a special front engine bolt and two upper bolts, together with the sidecar and it's attatchement hardware. The necesary holes are already available. The Earless front fork is also a plus, because ity is very strong, and because you can change the steering dynamics for sidecar usage. In the fifties and sixties, you could buy a complete outfit, consisting of a R60(/2) with a Spezial sidecar. The latter actually was a Steib TR500 with BMW logo's. Or you could buy the R26/R27 with a Standard, being a Steib LS200 with BMW logo's. Other popular sidecar's were the Steib S350, S250, S500 and S501, The Danish Bender and the Dutch Hollandia. Nowadays you see a lot of /2's with an Ural or Dnepr sidecar. This is a copy of the military Steib sidecar. Sometimes you also see the Tsjechian Velorex or the ex Eastern Germany Elastic. (IMHO not so attractive) /2's with an old Steib or a Dnepr sidecar are a beautifull sight, but are not very powerfull. The R60/2 with sidecar has a topspeed of 110 km/h. In modern trafic a bit low maybe. And because it is relatively easy to exchange the engine for a post '69 boxer engine, this is common practice. So you can put a R75/x or a R90/6 engine in there and get a lot more power. But be aware, don't overdo this because a real high speed sidecar outfit needs a lot more modifi- cations, like stronger brakes and lower wheels for better stability. David Makin sended me this article about what you can expect when swapping engines: This article summarizes experience in building two old frame/new motor "conversions". One is an R50/2, rebuilt with an R75/7 powerplant and fitted with a large Bender sidecar. The other is a 1966 R69S, fitted with the engine from an R90/6 but a four-speed gearbox from a /5. Basically we transplanted the modern engines complete with carbs and exhaust, gearbox, drive shaft, cables, hand controls, and instruments into the /2 chassis. Building the conversions was aided by the availability of an empty /7 crankcase, and a spare gearbox. Thus, I was able to offer up a lightweight drive train to the /2 frame without a lot of effort to test assemble. Here's the modifications required to the /2 frame to fit a /5/6/7 engine/gearbox: -- trim the sidestand bracket so that it presents a smooth face on the inside --shorten rear tank mount about 3/4" --reweld the triangular frame gusset at the V of the top rear frame tubes under the seat about 3/8 of an inch higher up the tubes, so that the air box can be fitted. [There is evidently some considerable variation in /2 frames; we've since learned that other conversions have required spreading the frame to accept the motor, and dimpling the frame to clear the oil filter plate.] With these modifications the engine can be installed less timing coverand starter cover which have to be fitted after the main lump is in. With the engine in place, the gearbox can be installed in the normal way. At this point two more major tasks remain: the Earles fork, which may hit the timing cover, and the fact that the drive shaft was shy of the output flange by about 1/4 inch. To deal with the easy part first, we took the /2 drive shafts out of the /2 swing arm, and replaced it with /6 /7 shafts. The later drive shaft is about 5 or 6 mm longer, but the /6/7 "bell" has to be turned down to match the /2. You cannot use a /5 drive shaft and bell; there isn't enough metal in the bell to allow sufficient machining. At the front, the lower brace between the legs of the Earles fork hit the timing cover. Interference apparently depends on what fork you are using; the R69S fork, for example, had a flatter tube in this spot to clear the harmonic damper. With a non-ventilated /5 timing cover, the fork just cleared -- but not with enough room for safety. The '63 R50 with a /7 engine had about 3/16 of negative clearance. This was reduced to 1/16 simply by filing the ribs off the front of the /7 timing cover. To make things fit, an eliptical slice of tube was hacksawed from the fork brace. The opened-up tube was filed to a smooth curve, and test-fitted to the frame with the timing cover in place. Once the desired curve was attained, 1/8" mild steel was MIG welded over the hole, shaping it very carefully to exactly match the tube. At this point, the engine/gearbox is in place, the drive shaft installed, and the front fork back on. Take the opportunity to put tapered roller bearings in the steering head; this is a bit awkward, as the outer race is a tight fit, but it is worthwhile (I had no problems with this. Kees). Now, you face all the really fiddly bits which take almost as long as the big job of engine, gearbox, drive shaft and fork. After much experimenting, two Dyna 6-volt twin-lead coils required for the 750's twin-plug heads were fitted under the tank between the top tubes. The voltage regulator and the starter relay also fit under the tank; careful routing of the original /7 wiring harness allowed all stock connectors to be used. There is adeqate room for a single two-lead coil, but not for the stock large twin 6v coils. To fit the large /7 headlight, the /2 headlight mounts were removed, and the mounting holes enlarged by the simple expedient of removing the rubber grommets. New rubber pads were made to go between the mounting ears and the fork, and by leaving the rubber grommets out enough width was gained for the complete /7 headlight. However, the left hand mounting ear had to be modified so that the very large /7 ignition key/mounting bolt could be installed. The /7 instrument panel mounts nicely to the /2 top fork yoke, since the spacing between the handlebar mounts is the same. The rear portion of the instrument mount was simply trimmed off, and the instruments mounted without any rubber bushings. Much more simply, a /5 headlight including the instruments goes right in, or the /2 headlight, with a change in bulbs and some rewiring, could be used. Both would be more "period" and might be preferred by some. At the rear the /2 wiring harness can be used for the tail light, splicing the wiring to the /7 main harness plug for stop, tail, turn and ground. Finding a suitable battery and developing a battery tray takes some time. Originally a battery tray was made to bolt to the original tray mounts at the rear and to the bottom of the seat bracket at the front, offset to the left away from the drive shaft housing. There was then just enough room to install a YBL-14A 12 volt battery. Later, a Mk II version was made, somewhat simpler, that holds the battery in a central position.and is much tidier although the clearances are very tight. The small battery has presented no problems so far; next time we'll seek out a taller ATV battery which we're told is a better fit and holds more acid. The /5/6/7 exhaust pipes with extensions mate up to a pair of R69S stainless mufflers. A complete purpose-made stainless exhaust pipe and muffler set is available for these conversions from EPCO, which would be better still. EPCO also makes a long-inlet muffler which allows use of the cheaper stock pipes shortened to suit. How does it all work? Very well, but the brakes, remember, aren't up to current standards. However, the styling and sidecar capability of these frames is very attractive, particularly with the modern powerplant and 12 volt electrics. Several MOA articles provided valuable research including August 1982, September 1982, November 1982, March 1983, and July 1991. Question: How should I attach a sidecar to my /2 BMW? Answer: This is an abstract from the official BMW workshop manual. Do anything you think is practical. For example, it's not very necessary to use the sidecar gearbox. The subsequent modification of a solo motorcycle to accomodate a sidecar involves a number of technical changes wich in every case should be reserved for a special BMW garage. 1 Replace the bevel gear setin the rear axle drive. 4.33:1 for the R50 and 3.86:1 for the R60. 2 Exchange the transmision against another with sidecar ratio. (R50 and R60). 3 Install modified speedometer with ratio for sidecar operation. 4 Equip front and rear suspension with thicker springs. Set the swinging arm bearing on the front fork in the forward location on the fork. And the front wheel upper suspension mounting into the lower position of the fork. 5 Exchange brakelever without stop screw to one with a screwscrew. Srew in the stopscrew until a noticable braking effect is obtained, the back of until wheel just runs freely, and tighten the lock nut. 6 It is available to exchange the 25.6" solo handlebar against a 28" sidecar handlebar. In this case also use the longer control cables. 7 Exchange the wheels with lightmetal rims against wheels with steel rims. 2.15Bx18 front with 3.50-18 tire and 2.75Cx18 rear with 4.00-18 tire. 8 Replace the front engine mounting bolt by the ball pin to be suplied by BMW. For this it is necessary to remove the bushing in the right hand frame eye. The new bolt is supplied with a castellated nut, which must be secured with a cotter pin after tightening. Install the two eyebolts into the provided eyes on the right side front and rear. Remove the paint from contact surfaces for the eyebolts and tighten the nuts with 54 ft/lbs. 9 Remove the blinker light from right handlebar end. Disconnect lead from terminal K2(R) of the blinker unit and on its place connect the new lead for the blinker light on the sidecar fender. Seal opening in the handlebar with a suitable plug. // Everything about the hydraulic sidecar brakes deleted // When attaching the sidecar to the motorcycle, start with the under attach- ment points. Rock the motorcycle repeatedly sidewise to insure a perfect seat of the ball joints. Then attach the upper parts and take care to avoid any tension in the attachment points. Recommended sidecar dimensions: Toe-in 1.2" to 1.6" Camber 3/8" to 7/16" with motorcycle and sidecar occupied. The sidecar brake should take hold after the rear wheel brake has already begun to grip. In general, the total braking action of the front and rear wheel brakes of the motorcycle should be so proportioned to that of the sidecar that the vehicle always tracks well, irrespective of the load, when the brakes are applied. The electric jack for connetion of the sidecar lighting is situated under the seat on the cross brace of the frame. The jack is energized as the light on the headlamp is switched on. What is this magneto? How should it work, and why doesn't it work in my bike? This article is submitted by Craig A. Vechorik. Does your mag igniton BMW start on the first kick? If properly set up, it should! Although many of the old timers are aware how to set up a Magneto, there are some commonly overlooked items and procedures to remember. First of all, disconnect the plug wire from the coil, and using an Ohm meter, check the resistance of the wire and the plug cap. It should be ZERO resistance Before all of the hair splitters out there jump my case, let me make my standard Disclaimer of the '90s and say that THIS WORKS FOR ME, and has for years. Yea, I know that BMW started using resistor plug caps in '67 in response to regualtions governing RF interference. I still don't recommend that you use them. A lot of aftermarket companys will sell you /5 or /6 plug caps, but they have a 1000 ohm resistor built in them. If you can't find a source of non resistor caps, head for a chain saw dealer. Remember, that the faster a Mag spins, the hotter the spark. At the speed that you can kick the engine over, the spark is relatively weak, and using resistor caps and plugs is to invite hard starting. Another problem in starting can be the condensor. ALWAYS carry a spare one with you when you ride a /2, because if it ever fails (and they do) it will quit on you, and will not restart. You don't have to buy one from BMW, either. The condensors I use are for a V-8 Ford, '73 351 ci, and they have their own bracket already on the condensor, and the wire lead has a spade lug on it. This consensor will produce a strong blue spark, and last for many years. The initial setup of the Magneto is important if it is to produce a strong spark. Check to see if the scribed line on the rotating magnet lines up EXACTLY with the bottom of the "V" notch on the brass plate that the points mount on, when the "S" mark of the flywheel is lined up with the stationary mark on the crankcase. If it is off slightly, loosen the two 6mm nuts that secure the body of the mag to the timing gear cover, and rotate the body to the left or right until a perfect alignment is obtained. I have seen folks use a timing light to check the timing while the engine is running, and to obtain the correct timing, they will move the body of the Magneto. this is NOT the way to set the timing. If you remove the centrifugal advance, you will notice that the points are mounted on a seperate breaker plate, which is held down by two screws. That is the plate which needs to be moved when setting the timing. Another thing which will cause coil failure, (which is common) is the ventilation system for the electrics. Ever wonder what that little breather air cleaner thing is doing under the 1/2 moon cover on top of the engine? Air is drawn in through the notches on the front engine cover, over the generator and coil, through the little breather, into the Carbs. Check that little breather, clean it, lightly oil it, and put it back. Keep in mind that the timing of an air cooled engine is critical to the operating temperature of the engine, One can easily time a /2 engine staticly. By aligning the "S" mark on the flywheel to the stationary mark on the window of the crankcase, and then using a test light or an ohm meter on the points. (the wires from the coil and condensor must be disconnected) If you use a test light, you must use a battery also, to light the test light. You use the test light AFTER you have set the points to their proper gap. You rotate the breaker plate clock wise (but all I've ever seen is a digital watch P^) )to advance the timing or counter clock wise to retard the timing. The idea is that you want to postion the breaker plate so as you rotate the engine, as the "S" mark S-l-o-w-l-y passes the stationary mark, the points open, turning off the test light, or showing an open circut on the ohm meter. In the end, except for the initial set up and starting of the engine, it doesn't matter too much where the "S" mark appears in relation to the stationary mark, when the engine is running at idle. What does matter is where the "F" mark or full advance mark is with the engine running at riding speeds. The only way to check this is with a timing (strobe) light. This brings us to another common problem. When you use the timing light, do you see two images in the window? At idle or at Full advance? If you do, shut the engine down, and rotate the engine until the points are at their widest. Check the gap with a feeler gauge, and figure out which blade of the gauge fits the gap the best. Then rotate the engine 360 degrees, and check it again. In the ideal situation, with a good advance, assuming that the shaft of the rotating magnet, that the advance mounts on, is not bent, or that you had inadvertently had a speck of dirt on the taper between the camshaft and the rotating magnet when you mounted it on the cam, the point gap should be the same. You do know that both cylinders fire at the same time, but only one of them is on the compression stroke, while the other fires during the exhaust stroke. When you see two images in the window, one side of the advance is worn more than the other, and the points are opening to a different gap from one side to the other of the advance. Slash 5 & 6's will do this also. If they still have points in them. You can cure a /5 or /6 with an electronic inductive ignition system. Too bad that there is not an inductive system for a mag. The wider the images appear in the window, the more worn out the advance is. You can see this condition in the header pipes of the engine. If one is "bluer" and the blue extends further back on the pipe, one cylinder is timed slightly different, and is doing most of the work. On a machine in this conditon, it is hard to get it to run right, it seems as if the carbs are slightly out of sync, and you get vibration at all speeds. Messing with the sync of the carbs won't help it either. the only thing you can do is buy a new advance.